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I'm working on an automatic way to flag cheaters/hackers. A manual way for users to report cheaters will also exist but the automatic system should weed out the obvious cheaters.

From what I can tell, the fastest legit 100% of a non-plat game is around 7 minutes, so I'm flagging PSN games with completion times of <= 5 minutes.
The fastest legit plat seems to be 25+ minutes, so I'm flagging games platted <= 25 minutes.

Example of what it's catching: http://screensnapr.com/e/DoDauU.png

I also need a list of games where games can be legitimately completed in under 25 minutes, like NFS: Undercover.

I think a three strike system would work well, it's lean but leaves some room for error.

Edit: Current whitelist is:
MotorStorm RC (PS3)
MotorStorm RC (Vita)
Need For Speed: Undercover
Linger in Shadows

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Sounds good. What will happen to the cheater/hacker after strike 3?
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Sounds good. What will happen to the cheater/hacker after strike 3?


I assume total removal from leaderboards?

Take a look at my checklist!

 

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I assume total removal from leaderboards?


This and plat club, 100% club, game leaderboard, trophy achievers lists.

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Sweet....how do we manually flag them and does it appear on their profiles that they are cheating?

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Sounds good. What will happen to the cheater/hacker after strike 3?


Total inhalation

I still think Its possible to get Trine 2 plat as mentioned in the CB in 25-30 mins legit.

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I like the sound of this :yay:
I wonder how many people will disappear off of the leaderboards :hmm:

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I like the sound of this :yay:
I wonder how many people will disappear off of the leaderboards :hmm:


A lot off the first couple of pages probably.... :P

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But what about those with timestamps that say 0 seconds?
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But what about those with timestamps that say 0 seconds?


Those are ignored.

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Edit: Current whitelist is:
MotorStorm RC (PS3)
MotorStorm RC (Vita)
Need For Speed: Undercover
Linger in Shadows


Looks good.

The ones listed on the games page sorted by difficulty are probably a good place to start for whitelist candidates: http://psnprofiles.c...ficulty&letter=

Megamind is probably doable in <25 mins. Probably most of the "movie cartoon" games potentially fall into that category. I agree with the person above about Trine 2 as well since you can get the platinum before finishing the game.

Also I don't think MotorStorm RC should be whitelisted as one of the required trophies to plat is to get an aggregate time of < 40 mins across all tracks and that's pretty tough to do -- people have reported having to beat their gold medal times again and again on various tracks to shave a few more seconds of each to hit the 40m number. You'd basically have to beat each track with the best possible time on the first try and do so by an impossible margin to get the under 40 min trophy in 25 mins. And also if you use the second account trick for the multiplayer challenge trophy, you still have to do that race 10 times which is probably another 5-10 mins total.

Unless there was some software glitch in an early version of the game that caused the platinum to pop early I don't see how anyone could do that in < 25m.

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Total inhalation

I still think Its possible to get Trine 2 plat as mentioned in the CB in 25-30 mins legit.


If you're measuring from first trophy to platinum, you're probably right.

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this is Awesome news. can't wait for it to go into effect. Posted Image


how is the 3 strike system gonna work.?
is it that they get a warning for the hacks they already have, then a warning for each new hack.?

or if they currently have 5 games and 3 are hacked, do they get removed from jump.?

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I think it might be possible to get the Trine 2 platinum that quickly. I'm not 100%

Looking at that image you posted... BlackDevil990 was the first person to finish NYM HC in Max Payne 3. Now I'm wondering if he did it legit or not.

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I never knew people could hack their trophy list. I feel stupid.

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Looks good.

The ones listed on the games page sorted by difficulty are probably a good place to start for whitelist candidates: http://psnprofiles.c...ficulty&letter=

Megamind is probably doable in <25 mins. Probably most of the "movie cartoon" games potentially fall into that category. I agree with the person above about Trine 2 as well since you can get the platinum before finishing the game.

Also I don't think MotorStorm RC should be whitelisted as one of the required trophies to plat is to get an aggregate time of < 40 mins across all tracks and that's pretty tough to do -- people have reported having to beat their gold medal times again and again on various tracks to shave a few more seconds of each to hit the 40m number. You'd basically have to beat each track with the best possible time on the first try and do so by an impossible margin to get the under 40 min trophy in 25 mins. And also if you use the second account trick for the multiplayer challenge trophy, you still have to do that race 10 times which is probably another 5-10 mins total.

Unless there was some software glitch in an early version of the game that caused the platinum to pop early I don't see how anyone could do that in < 25m.

The problem with MotorStorm RC is if you plat the game on PS3 and then start the game on Vita, all the trophies pop and vice versa.

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how is the 3 strike system gonna work.?
is it that they get a warning for the hacks they already have, then a warning for each new hack.?

or if they currently have 5 games and 3 are hacked, do they get removed from jump.?


3 hacked games and you're off the leaderboards. You'll be able to see how many games you're flagged in.

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Great featute Sly. I think 1 hacked game is enough to get someone off the leaderbords though. But is my personal opinion.

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Understood. this is Perfect. @least now when I look @ the Leader Boards I can Respect the gamers there knowing they put the Time & Effort into Earning their Possition. :awesome: B)

Great featute Sly. I think 1 hacked game is enough to get someone off the leaderbords though. But is my personal opinion.


I would have to aggree with your post, but @ the same time everybody makes mistakes starting out which they later regret.
but 3 or more is just abuse. and a well deserve removal..

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I like the sound of this :yay:
I wonder how many people will disappear off of the leaderboards :hmm:


Hundreds, if not thousands I hope. It pisses me off that a game you work so hard on whenever it be two weeks, a month or more people hack 'em in bunches thinking it's cool and feel elite about it.

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Nice feature Sly :D

Lets say you have 1 strike, will other users be able to see that or is it just if you have 3 you vanish?

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